Objections To A Merry Christmas

[olivet]

No I spoke as if...........and confused you

[Colin2000]

Hi Olivet,

You did you did and I am confused but never mind I like being confused, exciting isn't it!!!...!

Makes the chaos theory look good anyway,

Colin.

[Colin2000]

Hi David,

Wast is waste only until somebody finds something they can do with it then it has value and is no longer waste!

But then again?

Colin.

[olivet]

I was occupying the wrong space, that time has not come yet  Truly, His birth is relevant to prove His death for it indicates the Lord did come down from heaven and dwelt among us not as a mere mortal but as the Word made flesh

[a2jgrammy]

For myself and my kids, we were able to sing Christmas songs and have 'the Christmas play" at school/library.  Not so much with my g-kids as things went south with the PC agenda.

It use to be more of a 'wonder time' I think.  The birth of Christ was the 'theme' and not the Santa and gifts so much.

Gifts were a couple of things if you were one of the lucky ones and we made gifts to give, and baked cookies and made candy to exchange with family, friends and neighbors.

The people would go out in the streets and sing, and a 'flash mob' was unheard of.

Churches had programs and you went from church to church to enjoy the awesome story of the birth of our Savior and the music.

Now, Christmas is gaged by how much the retailers bring in, and the 'sellin' starts in the summer months with the Christmas decorations.  Crazy to me.

I worked retail for years , and I don't enjoy the holidays now.  Retail sales has taken the joy out of holidays for me.

I really don't care if I say Happy Chanuka  or Merry Christmas and someone gets upset.
But this telling me I can't say them gets real old.

If by secular you mean not religious, I totally agree with you
I am not religious and will never be if I can help it

I hope we mean the same thing by "religious"

For the same reason I wouldn't lose sleep if I missed Chanuka, or Passover
It means something to me as a picture of spiritual things and as a tradition. But non of these things are holy!

Added later: As for christmas, Yeshua can be celebrated every day of our lives, not just once a year.
Many people don't have God in their every day life and so they would need these reminders such as christmas, chanuka, passover, shabbat etc......  Not a bad idea at all but again, they are not the essence of God, just reminders for those who need or want them

this I agree with 100%

[Ruth Ann]

Indeed! A very merry Christmas to you all!!!!

[olivet]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQWXfHzOKUU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQWXfHzOKUU</a>

[a2jgrammy]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNmoKVttnaQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNmoKVttnaQ</a>

[olivet]

It is so wonderful to come to the Christ Child, the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity as a beautiful baby in the manger, so sweet and gentle, so dependent, so easy to relate to, He steals your heart away

[hupo]

If I address the subject header.....

I envy you people for the feelings you have about christmas related to Yeshua.
I've been alienated from him for so many years that I find it hard to have anything close to the feelings you guys portray
There is such a vast difference for me, between God and Yeshua...

I hope you understand that I do not have objections to a merry christmas, I just don't feel connected to it in any way

In 5 days time a very large portion of the world's people will be celebrating
I can pretend to join the fun but it would be an empty show, in fact hypocritical
That is why I try to connect Chanuka, the festival of lights, to Yeshua, the light of the world

and I do wish you all a very merry christmas

[Colin2000]

Hi David,

I should imagine that for you who is not steeped in English History or the history of English/British Geography would possibly understand our preoccupation occasionally with our historical origins!

It was quietly instilled into us as children living in a Christian society before we allowed the educational nuts and bolts to rewrite it!

But sometimes the Xmas Card of the idyllic church in rural England covered in snow with the old fox, sorry robin getting its nose and toes frozen still can spark memories of Ye Oldy Days of Yore when Christ was real and not just a baby in a manger!

But do you know now we have substituted Him for a high powered computer/TV./noise called music and money or the lack of it, debt!

But not to worry those of us who were born into this world are guaranteed to die in it too!  So what is new.  Well just maybe Jesus knows the answer anyway!

But one thing is certain David, God Bless you and all of you in your family and one day perfection and purity not found here in this world will be found in Jesus' place somewhere up there in the clouds and over that Christian Rainbow!

Yours in Christ's Peace of Heart,

Colin.

[hupo]

Colin Hi,

Like I said, I envy you people for the feelings you have around Christmas, even if is strongly diluted with modern technology and new-age artifacts and philosophies

Have a good one!!