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« on: Jan 05 2012 10:20:49 AM »

http://meadvilletribune.com/opinion/x1666060857/Priest-brawl-in-Bethlehem-Historical-symbol

 ceasar yes on this essay.  These monks show us ourselves, the fragmentation of the Body of Christ yes                                                 duel
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 05 2012 03:29:02 PM »

If it's any consolation, it is not just Christianity.
This is something that happens (or can easily happen) in any religion or in fact any group of human beings
It is a human trend...
and to think that God created us in HIS image??!!    Whew, what do I make of that?
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 05 2012 08:51:56 PM »

David

In the gospel of John, Jesus prayed "May the be one just as You and I are One"
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 06 2012 12:24:17 AM »

Well, we're all human enough to want what we want yes

and the Monks want each inch of turf it seems   laugh...they are just as human as the rest of us

and David you're right, it doesn't have to be any type of religion to make a 'battle' it seems

and the part of being made in His image is that at the 'fall' we lost something didn't we?

But Yeshua gave it back to us and we just have to keep plugging away to comform to His image now IMO...hard to do ...unless we rely on Him to lead us each step of the way.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 06 2012 02:52:12 AM »

Yep all,

How's your radar these days?

What do you see when you apply your doctrine?

Why don't you see the devil's traps before you fall into them I wonder?

Of course it couldn't happen to me because I am a follower of Jesus!  He has got to be English of course for the formulae to work!  Then on the other hand I am not a woman or a homosexual so that is alright isn't it!

Then again???....! 

But isn't Jesus wonderful He loves The sinner and hates the sin!  Just a little something to start the new year off with!

Yours in Christ,

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Forgot the PS.  Well I would wouldn't I!  New one today,  "The brain starts disintegrating from 45 onward not sixty onward, so what was that again? Oh yes monks with a hole in them!" 

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 06 2012 07:47:34 AM »

You know Colin,

I am wondering if we ALL...but I mean ALL, followed Yeshua, do you think we could stand it as human beings?!
I'm just remembering bible studies I had where everyone agrees with everything. I never get the message because I'm asleep already.
In my younger days I played rugby which was a terrible game if you didn't get knocked around a bit at least...

Do you think the human race can stand so much peace and quiet??!!
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 06 2012 09:49:30 AM »

You know Colin,

I am wondering if we ALL...but I mean ALL, followed Yeshua, do you think we could stand it as human beings?!
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There are human beings and human beings: In heaven as Grammy has pointed out above we have a bit missing at present!  Roll on Heaven and that bit put back so we can be at peace with ourselves and God too!  washed clean permanently and complete!
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I'm just remembering bible studies I had where everyone agrees with everything. I never get the message because I'm asleep already.
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Hi D.,

The HolyGhost has a habit of reminding us of Scripture and doctrine when required!  You have to be awake of course, I don't know dreams what's in a dream or two? 

But I find that I only hear Him when I shut up and stop telling Him what I think about it and what He should be doing!
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In my younger days I played rugby which was a terrible game if you didn't get knocked around a bit at least...
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Hi D.,

Is that the one with the squashed Football I wonder?
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Do you think the human race can stand so much peace and quiet??!!
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Hi D.,

No they most certainly cannot stand the peace and quiet,  that is why we have the Seven Deadly Sins!
The human race is all wind and water, that is why I belong to the funny peculiars called Christians, what's your excuse?

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Or putting it another way David,

Isn't the LORD wonderful He has us to amuse Himself with!

Free-will, it is not all it is cracked up to be you know,

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« Reply #7 on: Jan 06 2012 10:14:20 AM »

Money is the root of all evil...these turf wars of the battling Monks most assuredly are not caused by money, or greed or avarice,,,,,but battling in the church of the Nativity Cry Is it the human motive of who will be first in the Kingdom of heaven Huh....I am sure they are familiar with that Scripture....no they are battling over who gets to clean what....no longer young, some look a bit frail for work...could be old age dementia?
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 06 2012 10:56:40 AM »

Very true Olivet,

Dementia starts at forty-five now you know, Science has said so!

Yours in Christ,

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« Reply #9 on: Jan 06 2012 11:19:38 AM »

Who they need are Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn......getting people to pay them to clean for them...from the Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 06 2012 12:06:22 PM »

I think it's just that it's a TURF war

that's greed

I want more, that is mine, this is our area

we're human, and the Monks are too

we all sin, we all want, and it's not always about money

IMO this just shows us that we can't get along all the time..we won't get along all the time
and sometimes it's over down right foolish things..probably most of the time...

It just might have made God laugh that they were fighting with brooms and not guns.
that's refreshing for a change...
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 06 2012 01:14:32 PM »


There are human beings and human beings: In heaven as Grammy has pointed out above we have a bit missing at present!  Roll on Heaven and that bit put back so we can be at peace with ourselves and God too!  washed clean permanently and complete!


No, Colin,

I don't believe there are human beings and there are human beings.
We are all in the same boat....Noah's arc maybe?
After all God made us (ALL) in His image and last time I looked there was only ONE God (ie One image  Roll Eyes
I find it unreal and somewhat arrogant telling myself I am different than other people.
I could easily do the wrong thing for the wrong reasons..... like punch someone in the face when he curses my mother....
I would like to think that I am above it all but between you and me and the kitchen sink... do you really believe I am?  I don't.

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« Reply #12 on: Jan 06 2012 01:48:09 PM »

Well

They all have the same sin, they love to broom fight Grin especially over chores Grin
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 06 2012 02:28:24 PM »

Maybe we should try a broom fight here?

Could be fun

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« Reply #14 on: Jan 06 2012 07:43:10 PM »

What makes you think this isn't a broom fight, quarter staff's at the ready!
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 06 2012 10:03:52 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: Jan 06 2012 11:07:26 PM »

What's going on in here?  lipsrsealed laugh
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 07 2012 02:07:18 AM »

Grammy,

That's no weapon.

That is public transport !!!  doh3
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 07 2012 02:28:47 AM »

Hi All,

But I suffer from vertigo sometimes you know!

Besides it is against health and safety regulations to fly without handrails!

We will have to wait for The LORD to give us our wings,  must have something to flap you know!

Yours in His Everlovingtenderkindness and also in His wrath most likely,

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« Reply #19 on: Jan 07 2012 12:34:20 PM »

Grammy,

That's no weapon.

That is public transport !!!  doh3

Yes, I'm taking it out for a test drive to day....maybe y'all better ... prayer1
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