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« Reply #20 on: Jan 17 2012 02:56:45 AM »

Hi All,

There is a suggestion here abouts in England that the Americans are being primed for a war, limited or otherwise by somebody or something over in The USA.?

Could this be true I wonder or is it just a rumour??

It, the rumour, reminds me of the lie we went to war with in Iraq on mythical weapons of mass destruction???

Now this could not possibly be true could it perhaps it is just a coincidence!

Yours in Christ,

Colin.

PS.  Persia has a lot of oil perhaps that needs to be protected from the dogs of war who live in Persia?  But I can not see why? Electric Cars are now well and truly on the way!  With real good batteries in them?  Even my petrol car battery has just been fitted with a non acid liquid battery too!

PPS.  Read somewhere here that you are digging coal again in America.  We built the local football stadium over our coal hole in the ground!

PPPS.  Nazi-Germany at the end of WWII. was already producing oil from coal in the forties too!

Just a little something to stir the soul perhaps this bright and frosty morning if we could only remember where we have put the Sun.  Sounds familiar doesn't it!!!....! 
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« Reply #21 on: Jan 17 2012 03:44:49 AM »

Colin, yes, this gets very complicated especially as one cannot really trust the new these days (aka Rumors)

From my POV it seems very clear that the Muslim world is out to get rid of Israel and Jews in general
That can be read in the Hamas charter and other groups charters, not to mention Achmedinijad spouting it at out at every opportunity.

This leaves me with a dilemma: Should I ignore all these threats and gamble (with my family's lives) that it is not really true?
Or, should I make sure they don't get that Nuke they are so proudly and loudly talking about at every opportunity?

Painful decision.

Why the US are involved. or any other country?
Yes, oil probably has a lot to do with it but that will be nothing compared to Iran, a terrorist state having WMD in their hands and the likelyhood of terror groups getting their hands on the technology.

That is a threat to any country who doesn't want to turn Muslim!!!

So, If it was up to you, What would you do?
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 17 2012 10:46:40 PM »

Someone's murdering the nuclear scientists. Seems a good first step.
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« Reply #23 on: Jan 18 2012 02:54:16 AM »

Hi All,

Of course the fanatical Arab is out to get the Jew!  Fortunately there does seem to be some sane Arabs still about too!

Problem is that you have to trust those who have taken the Law/Torah into their own hands for their own purposes sometime!

When you confuse murder with war there we can have trouble internationally!

Yours in His Everlovingtenderkindness,

Colin.

PS.  The punchline here?  Could it possibly be that war is legal murder perhaps?  The Commandment that thou shalt not kill seems to really mean Thou shalt not murder sometimes???....!
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« Reply #24 on: Jan 18 2012 11:36:37 AM »

Ok, what of the intent to kill in war?

Sin?
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« Reply #25 on: Jan 18 2012 11:49:26 AM »

No Ruth,

Killing with the intent to kill is just heavy breathing!  The Commandment is with murder, killing with intent.  Intent here is meant to mean murder only if it isn't holy intent when you do it.

We were alright though you see, to kill somebody by my lot meant I had failed, maiming one of the enemy meant it would take two others to pick him up!  Three for the price of one!!!....!

Yours in His Everlovingtenderkindness,

Colin.
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« Reply #26 on: Jan 18 2012 11:59:59 AM »

Well, the bible is full of wars, many lead by the Lord of Hosts Himself!!

Did God break His own rules?
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« Reply #27 on: Jan 18 2012 03:03:24 PM »

Well, the bible is full of wars, many lead by the Lord of Hosts Himself!!

Did God break His own rules?
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Well David,

Two good points, He led these wars, so He could not possibly be breaking His own Rules of Combat could He!

Life is sacred, now where does it say that!  He has cursed us all with mortal death has He not?

Does God break His own rules set for men!  Who set these rules for God?

Yours in Christ,

Colin.
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« Reply #28 on: Jan 18 2012 04:29:06 PM »

So God kills in war but men murder? is that what you are saying?

I thought we were to follow Yeshua's example

Oh, it wasn't Yeshua! It was God!

Oh! How does this fit in with God (Father Son and Spirit) being one?

Oh, what a headache...
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« Reply #29 on: Jan 18 2012 07:29:03 PM »

Headache David,

1.  The Commandment to us,  "Thou shalt not murder!"

2.  Yet at the same time The LORD Yahweh in war has not only killed but He in the time of Noah wiped the human race out at a stroke other than Noah's family of course?

3.  Father is The LORD. Jesus is The LORD.  The HolyGhost is the same LORD.

He is in three places at the same time!

Come to think of it, He is everywhere at the same time!

Wonderful LORD YAHWEH JESUS knows best does He not!

Yahweh, Trinity Godhead is a very clever God is He not!

Beyond reason of Mankind.  But might well be understood by woman-kind a subgrouping of and within Mankind!

Yours in Christ Jesus,

Colin. 
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« Reply #30 on: Jan 19 2012 05:10:47 PM »

God commanded Noah and his family, and to Moses not to murder, yet, the punishment of the murderer was to kill him/her.

In Exodus God said Israel could kill an intruder, so self defense was ok.

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