RNC One State Solution Israel

[olivet]

http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/5528

[Ruth Ann]

That's pretty amazing.

[hupo]

That is all very well except it is totally impractical
A Jewish democratic state is an oxymoron

If we are a Jewish state we will have a big minority that is not Jewish!
Palestinians are not Jewish for the most part.
To allow them total democratic rights will be the end of the state as being Jewish because of the overflow of Palestinians taking over within a few years.
If we don't allow freedom of return (which is the situation today), we cannot be really democratic

This is why a two state solution is better, or rather, the lesser of two evils

So dear God, what did you have in mind?

[Colin2000]

Hi All,

Either the Jews return to their First Covenant and thereby simplifying their position in Israel by returning to Yahweh or they except Jesus and The Second Covenant to form this unification within Judaism!

Either way their unity can be likened to all American or English Christians returning to their Christian roots under The Second Covenant in America and England!

Pigs are definitely learning to fly too over here?  Where will it all end??  In The Second Coming probably since the element of belief is still missing in America, England, Israel in the majorities of those countries religious belief's???

Yours in Christ, He knows you know where it will all end,

Colin.

 

[hupo]

Colin,

I tend to agree even though it will be like swimming upstream in a river of thick tar...

[olivet]

David

The vast majority of Arab palestinians found found entry into Israel after Israel was reborn as a nation as a work force.

This is not an unusual set up, the US grants work visas and so do many other countries. At some [point in time these visas can run out and I imagination that person would have to obtain a new visa or work permit. 

The Israeli understanding seems to be backwards.

A a sovereign nation, Israel would have the right to limit who becomes a citizen.

[hupo]

The vast majority of Arab palestinians found found entry into Israel after Israel was reborn as a nation as a work force.

Try telling that to the Palestinians

They believe we shouldn't even exist!

[olivet]

The right of return would require a work visa without a doubt according to historical facts David.

They oppose the right of Israel to exist......there problem is that they were organized under Yasser Arafat, were slaughtered in Jordan when they destabilized that country and quite frankly are not welcome in the surrounding Arab countries from which they first came to prevent further destabilization of those dictatorships, now being ousted by Islamists and the Moslem Brotherhood...what a mess.

An ideal solution would be a home for them outside of Israel since they abhor Israel.

[hupo]

Trouble is all too many believe we should be democratic and allow the Palestinians whatever they want

What they want is (to quote the Hamas agenda) :-

The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).

[olivet]

David

I believe all too many are believing in fairy tales....palestinians are mostly radicals but not all

[Ruth Ann]

Is there a place in scripture that God says, David, your country will again take possession of the entire property?

“On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, “To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates—”
(Genesis 15:18 NIV)

http://david-insupportofisrael.blogspot.com/2011/08/promised-land-who-inherits-it.html

Look at that map! It contains a good part of S Arabia, Egypt, and more!

When will you take possession?

Here's a drawing of it from Wiki:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Greater_Israel_map.jpg

Here's a description:

With Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4 in mind, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile river in Egypt to Lebanon (North to South) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (West to East). So, what land has God stated belongs to Israel? All of the land modern Israel currently possesses, plus all of the land of the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised.

[olivet]

Under the League of Nations, the area now called Jordan was Trans Jordan and was an integral part of what is now Israel, the East and West banks When the Hashamite king was dispossessed from Saudi Arabia and the House of Saud took possession , the Hashamite king was given what is now Jordan.

For that reason, the King of Jordan keeps a very low profile and is not counted with the Islamists.

[hupo]

What the bible says is prophecy we don't know the timing of...

If God wants us to have all that area that is mentioned, He will find a way for it to materialize
Meanwhile we are trying to live with what we have and there are all too many who don't believe we should have ANYTHING

The best solution (until prophecy realizes) is, to my mind, a two state solution
But that can only come about if both sides are serious about it

Does it look like it? 

[Ruth Ann]

I just don't think that elevating the terrorist squatters to the level of a state will help a thing.

I began to think that when I was in Israel.

[hupo]

I just don't think that elevating the terrorist squatters to the level of a state will help a thing.

I began to think that when I was in Israel.

Of course it won't (help a thing) but we have to play the game to keep the world happy

WE are supposed to allow the Palestinians a state right next door to us without them so much as recognizing our right to exist!
Apart from the fact that part of the Palestinian "people" have declared they're ideology to wipe us out (Mainly Hamas and Hisbollah)
I wonder what any other western country would do in this situation

But no... I can just sit and wait to see what happens as Muslims take over in various countries.....

[Colin2000]

Hi David,

Don't we know it I mean just look at Scotland and the Northern English/Anglo-Saxons.

But they can be very useful you know the English Army used to practice it's manoeuvres on them!

Then the Scots ruined the plot, they united with us in the Union!

And that was even after we stopped them wearing the skirts, and that was only the men!

Yours in Christ, England's Saviour,

Colin.

[Ruth Ann]

The Muslim population is growing in America. They may take over in the future. But I don't believe we'll give them their own country inside the US...

[olivet]

The mosque at 9/11 is now Park 51, and is being used to establish shariia law in the US.  Worse the Moslem cleric is an Islamist sympathizer.  The plan of action is to erase the christian foundation of the US and insert a moslem heritage much as Obama did in his speeches...showing the Golden Age of Islam, it's science and mathematics

[olivet]

David

It is a game that you have to go along with for now

[hupo]

The mosque at 9/11 is now Park 51, and is being used to establish shariia law in the US.  Worse the Moslem cleric is an Islamist sympathizer.  The plan of action is to erase the christian foundation of the US and insert a moslem heritage much as Obama did in his speeches...showing the Golden Age of Islam, it's science and mathematics

The Muslim population is growing in America. They may take over in the future. But I don't believe we'll give them their own country inside the US...

Doesn't anyone see this danger?

Doesn't it bother anyone?

Beyond the Joe-in-the-street, that is